BSA A65D Lightning Rocket
I am trying to collate information on the
A65D Lightning Rocket.
I have retrieved the following info off of the Web, if any one else has any info
I would appreciate e-mailing me on
philipwt@tiscali.co.uk
Many thanks Philip Wright
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BSA 650cc "Rocket Lightning" confirmed:
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1989 Allen-head bolts used in engine
covers. · 12v electrics fitted by CW Motor Cycles of Dorchester · 1991 Rear wheal sprocket re-toothed (welded type) by Roger Maughling Eng., Knighton, Powys. Speedo recon. by Speedo Repairs of Frimley Green, Surrey. · 1995 Stainless steel rims & spokes front & rear · Seat Recovered (was sculptured at the rear) The above are the main changes plus routine maintenance etc. The BSA 1962-65 Workshop manual the only model with twin Amal 389/206 carburettors is the A65 Lightning Rocket, which mine has. In the publication BSA Twins & Triples 1964 A65 Lightning Rocket engine Nos A65D–101 frame Nos A50B-101 1965 A65 Lightning Rocket engine Nos A65D–1742 frame Nos A50B-4001 |
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Fanny Barnett expert John Harding in Ross-on-Wye agrees it's a
Lightning
Rocket but thinks it's a 1964 model. He confirms the numbering for
Lightning Clubman machines as A65DC. |
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The bike below is on the NEA Automotive site. |
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1965 BSA
Lightning Rocket The 1965 BSA Lightning Rocket has 650cc and twin Amals. Fully restored from the crankshaft out. Every part on the bike is the original part except the exhaust system and front and rear rims (which are NOS Jones) and the rear shocks (Hagons). The new exhaust is, as you can tell, Siamese and is BSA NOS for the 1965 European-version Lightning Rocket (the US model was not offered with Siamese exhaust). I have the original rims, shocks and exhaust system. Of course, all numbers match. I was the third owner and the second owner is a close friend of mine who acquired the bike when it was nine months old. I sold the bike a year or so ago to a Norwest Airlines pilot and long-time Brit-Iron enthusiast. This exhaust system is a very rare item. In fact, it's the only one I have ever seen on a Lightning Rocket in this country. BTW, the side cover badges are off for repainting to match the tank badges. Just another good-looking motor... The engine was not sandblasted, shell blasted, or otherwise blasted - it has the original casting patina. It was cleaned with kerosene only. It could use further polishing but, personally, I prefer the original casting patina - you can never get it back once you've blasted it with walnut shells or something. All fasteners that could be replaced by SAE stainless steel have been replaced (although I have ALL of the originals, right down to the last washer). This means all fasteners that have a bolt and nut as opposed to those that thread into a casing, etc. BTW, that doodad you see between the down tubes just above the exhaust system is the Tympanium rectifier. It has since been moved to a very neat location behind the left side panel. The wiring harness is excellent throughout and I have a complete spare, just in case. No Heli-Coils have been installed as all the original head bolts and threaded holes were in perfect condition. The engine had never been apart until I rebuild it. All the old fasteners that were re-used are in excellent condition. New oversize stainless steel spokes, new fork tubes (by Frank's), Boyer electronic ignition, 12v conversion with Tympanium rectifier, new chain, new primary chain, new primary chain tensioner, etc., etc., etc. Yes, all the parts that you can't see were replaced and I have the receipts from British Only to prove it. BTW, this bike starts on the first kick every time, hot or cold. It ALL used to be "Show Chrome"... All chrome has been re-chromed in triple plate show chrome by ABC Chrome in Waterford, MI, including the fuel tank. Those of you familiar with ABC know they do many of the show cars for Autorama, etc. The chrome on this bike cost $1500 in 1996. There were no dents or other damage to the bike prior to re-chroming - this was a straight bike. It had never been dropped, hit, or mistreated. Even the clutch and front brake levers were perfect. It was simply 30-some years old and needed to be stripped and restored. The entire chassis was powder coated in dark blue. All "cycle side" components were done - wheel hubs, frame, swing arm, foot pegs, fork housings, taillight bracket, and so on and so on right down to nuts & bolts. Every single piece of original chrome was re-chromed - right down to every nut & bolt. The tires are new K-81 Dunlop's matched to the original cross section. The engine was built by David Coe in Ionia, MI, and received all new bearings and bushings in both engine and transmission except the right side crank bushing which was in "as new" tolerance. Many knowledgeable BSA fans are aware that 1966 was the year BSA unit twins received the left side crank bearing change that weakened bushing reliability. 1965 was the last year for the original roller bearing crank and, as such, this year is considered by many to be the finest unit motor of it's kind. It is bulletproof, simple to build and simple to maintain and makes excellent power. Also, the BSA chassis was mechanically the most elegant on the market in the 60's. It even has a quick-change rear wheel that allows the wheel to be removed without disturbing chain tension (makes fixing flat tires a breeze). That is remarkable for 1965. BTW, yes, the rear sprocket is in perfect condition. "Handed" Amals, NOS badges... Close inspection will reveal that the twin Amals are "handed". It is very rare to find one with handed monoblocs, but it sure makes getting at the ticklers easier. They look cooler, too. (For Amal aficionados, there is a 389 and a 689, 1 1/8 bores, needles and jets set to stock.) I have a complete photo history and complete pedigree dating back to the original owner and I have the original title. As I mentioned, I am the third owner of this bike. The first owner had it for 9 months; the second had it until 1996 when I bought it as a restoration project. Before my rebuild, it had 22,000 miles on the clock. Finally, Finch painted this bike. HD fans might recognize him from Finch's Custom Cycles in Auburn Hills, MI. It is a pale yellow metallic and it is beautiful. Handling is light, quick and predictable for this vintage machine. Brakes are awful but typical for the period. Gearing seems tall but I suppose I’ve gotten used to five speed gearboxes and the old 4-gear job just feels tall. In general she is a very nice bike and a pleasure to ride. It sounds wonderful, smells like a Brit-iron twin ought to, and buzzes like one of those 25-cent bed vibrators. It's a great bike. OK, What's Wrong With It? I did the rest on this one prior to the arrival of my first child. These days, I'm lucky to get fifteen minutes of uninterrupted time to myself. I just don't have the time to fix the little details and, although I ride the bike and fix the big stuff, I'm anal retentive enough that even minor flaws bug me. This one deserves someone that has the extra time to keep it in show bike condition. It is truly that nice. The seat needs to be recovered. The pan is fine and there are no rips or tears but a nice new cover would look sharp. The speedo and tacho both work fine although the main odometer is so faded you can't read the numbers. The trip odometer works fine but lacks a reset stick - I have no idea where it went. These instruments cost about $100 each to restore properly but frankly, they wont work any better than they do now. They'll just have new rubber bezels and look prettier. BTW, the amp meter works also, which is just about miraculous for an original Lucas part. The headlight on/off switch works perfect but the bakelite actuator vibrated off one day. Also, the ignition key vibrated off and vanished. Both add up to a minor nuisance. The tank leaked and damaged the paint on lower edge of each side of the gas tank. Luckily, I have enough of the original paint to do the tank and side covers at least once more so touch up is a relatively minor thing. I replaced the old Ewart petcocks with modern valves (saved the Ewarts, of course). I have not (and do not intend to) Kreem the tank. There were two pinhole leaks and, in response, we lead soldered the seam on both sides. The rest of the tank is solid as a rock. It's important to remember that this tank was perfect - not a dent or mark of any kind when I re-chromed it. Therefore, the chrome is perfect. The tank is in excellent condition except for the paint flaws and those are easily corrected. Also, the aluminium engine covers are due for a good polishing and the rear brake light actuator switch needs painting. The right fork leg seal weeps a bit because the seal moved slightly out of its seat when I tied the bike down in the back of my truck one day. Simple fix but I don't have the time to fuss with it right now. Finally, there is a slight scuffmark on the front fender between the fork tubes where the headlight bezel rubbed against one day; it is minor enough that you have to look for it. Likewise, there is a scratch in the chrome on the rear fender under the passenger grab bar you have to look under the seat to see. That's about it. It is an exceptionally nice 1965 BSA Lightning Rocket. There are very few around and just about none of them have all their original parts. This one is show quality throughout except for touching up the paint on the tank, the seat cover, painting the brake light switch, polishing the cases and a good coat of wax. Incidentally, the bike cost just over $5500 to restore, plus my labour.
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Lot 293: BSA 654cc Lightning RocketVintage and Collectors Motorcycles, Bonhams (25th April 2004)[View all lots in this auction] Presented in superb condition Lot Details
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I have built a Lightning Clubman Replica. British Cycle Supply has been
the source of a number of major and minor bits. Wanted to include a
picture for you. I started with a very rough 1965 Lightning Rocket.
Since the forks, frame, wheels, etc are the correct running gear for a
Lightning Clubman, used that as the basis. The original plan was to make
it resemble a Lightning Clubman, somewhere, it got out of hand and
became a very detailed replica. Started in August of 2004 and completed
it in July of 2006. Has a Dunlop alloy rim in the front, Morad on the
rear, late half width front brake for the extra braking area. Rear sets
are duplicates of the Small Heath rear sets using sketches allegedly
from a real one and some poor pictures. Engine is a 1965 spec. A65D
motor used 9-1 compression to run on today's fuel. Has a close ratio box
in 1st & 2nd with std 3rd. Works super! Overall gearing is for the Isle
of Man, which makes starts a treat. Wiring harness was made by myself,
has modern charge control and electronic ignition. Ross Thompson
restored tank. The paint, which was colour matched to a NOS BSA tank was
applied by Wes Adkins from East Canton Ohio. The colour is getting a
tremendous amount of comment. I was hesitant to paint it gold, but after
seeing the final result, it is stunning. The exhaust system was a major
component supplied by BCS. You had Lightning Clubman exhaust on your
site; I immediately bought the full set. Fit was excellent and it sounds
awesome. Bike is a blast to ride. Down side, it will probably get me
into trouble, as it likes to run somewhat faster than legal! Thanks for
your help on this project and look forward to using you in my future
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Bert and Chris struck by Lightning as 'dream
classic' returns from treatment by Robin James team. The 1966 BSA Lightning was in a sorry state when
restoration work was begun on it for Bert and Chris Tromans, of
Wolverhampton, England. Worse was to come, as it was not looking better
after much searching and heartache for them. Bert and his wife entrusted
the restoration to what they call "the Robin James infirmary", and the
fully restored motorcycle is now a dream classic in their eyes. Enquire with confidence about the professional restoration of your cherished machine by Robin James Engineering Services, the Concourse awards-winning, British restorer of classic motorcycles, established in 1979. Please telephone us for an initial discussion
with Robin James. This is the best way of contacting us: the discussion
can take in the particular history of the motorcycle and your wishes for
its restoration. You will have Robin's undivided attention but will not
be pressured, and our advice is free. Reach us on +44 (0) 1568
612800. |
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BSA Number Data
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Model |
Engine prefix |
Engine sequence |
Frame prefix |
Frame sequence |
CC |
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A65 STAR |
A65A |
101 |
A50 |
5501 |
650 |
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A65 POLICE |
A65AP |
101 |
A50 |
5501 |
650 |
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A65R ROCKET |
A65B |
101 |
A50B |
101 |
650 |
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A65T THUNDERBOLT ROCKET |
A65B |
101 |
A50 |
5501 |
650 |
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A65R ROCKET WITH REV COUNTER |
A65C |
101 |
A50 |
5501 |
650 |
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A65L LIGHTNING ROCKET |
A65D |
101 |
A50B |
101 |
650 |
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A65SH SPITFIRE HORNET |
A65E |
101 |
A50B |
101 |
650 |
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1965 |
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A65 STAR |
A65A |
1134 |
A50 |
8437 |
650 |
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A65 POLICE |
A65AP |
267 |
A50 |
8437 |
650 |
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A65 LIGHTNING |
A65DC |
2158 |
A50B |
4001 |
650 |
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A65 LIGHTNING CLUBMAN |
A65DC |
2158 |
A50B |
4001 |
650 |
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A65L LIGHTNING ROCKET |
A65D |
1742 |
A50B |
4001 |
650 |
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A65R ROCKET |
A65B |
334 |
A50 |
8437 |
650 |
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A65R ROCKET WITH REV COUNTER |
A65C |
1082 |
A50 |
8437 |
650 |
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A65SH SPITFIRE HORNET |
A65E |
701 |
A50B |
4001 |
650 |
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